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X Gallentius Justified Chaos 2453	Posted - 2014.08.19 22:04:00 - [1] - Quote Farmers under control with latest changes to plex rats. Timer rollbacks not needed at this point in time. Otherwise, FW has generated more content for more entities than any other part of the game this summer. If anything, CCP should investigate ways to make NPC 0.0 and/or non-FW low sec systems more attractive.
X Gallentius Justified Chaos 2454	Posted - 2014.08.19 23:10:00 - [2] - Quote Cearain wrote: If you are fine with the war being won by alts in empty frigates d-plexing systems and running from every fight, then nothing needs to be done. That's true. This is patently false. The alts in empty frigs are left unattended so their main can pay attention to other things, and they purposefully get podded to sell the kill rights (nuetrals) as well as for quicker reshipping times. Defensive plexing alts have not kept us from taking any system we want to take, btw.
X Gallentius Justified Chaos 2455	Posted - 2014.08.20 21:55:00 - [3] - Quote Master Sergeant MacRobert wrote: X Gallentius wrote: Stuff Good Response to Stuff Now ask yourself if timer rollbacks would "solve" the issue of afk defensive plexing alts? Answer: Not really. The only way to "stop" a defensive plexing alt is to attack the system.
X Gallentius Justified Chaos 2455	Posted - 2014.08.20 22:10:00 - [4] - Quote Master Sergeant MacRobert wrote: Crosi Wesdo wrote: You keep repeating the 2 year out of date impressions you have of faction war, even in min/amarr wz im pretty confident that most system captures are being driven by actual pvp'ers. You just live in a parallel dimension where facts are invisible. I do not think the current crop of evasion offensive plexers from the Gallente Militia in the systems around Tzvi, Sifilar, Raa and Oyeman support your assumptions. You just left them little room to work in your own Warzone. The difference now is that the timescale for system flips by the "evasion alts" is much slower and puts much less stress on players who actually live in the war zone. Timer rollbacks would have the same effect, but wouldn't "solve" the problem. You might be able to argue that timer rollbacks would be worse since 1. the dps check is always applied even if the defender is not logged in, and 2. The timer doesn't run until the rat is destroyed. The "evasion plexer" can't kill a rat quickly enough before an active defender runs him out. Timer doesn't count down. So anyways, that's the argument for no longer needing a timer rollback feature. Take it for what it's worth.
X Gallentius Justified Chaos 2455	Posted - 2014.08.20 22:43:00 - [5] - Quote Cearain wrote: Why are certain Gallente arguing against the obvious and huge impact of alts d-plexing? They are down to 5 systems and want to "win" fw again. Correction: We're down to four. Please don't hate. It's bad for your mental health. BTW, it doesn't matter what we argue for or against. This "offensive" will be over one way or another before anything discussed in this thread or at any town meeting is implemented.
X Gallentius Justified Chaos 2455	Posted - 2014.08.21 07:00:00 - [6] - Quote Cearain wrote: Given what they want fw to be their aversion to plex timer rollbacks makes perfect sense. As Theroine said, people who want fights instead of chasing rabbits are after different ends than he is. Plex timer rollbacks is one proposal that clearly separates the 2 camps. Not really. You can go with plex timer rollbacks if you want. Make sure the rats are rebalanced though. We're saying that they're really not needed now and that they won't achieve the objective you say they'll achieve.
X Gallentius Justified Chaos 2455	Posted - 2014.08.21 15:33:00 - [7] - Quote Cearain wrote: I will say that defensive plexing is not very good at padding your wallet because you only get a fraction of the lp. That is really why I would agree that that the d-plexers are not really "farmers." They are not in it for the isk they are doing this for the warzone control. My deplexing alt is at 1.3 million LP over the past two weeks because we're at Tier 4 and it goes to highly contested, unpopulated systems. So, yeah, it's great for padding the wallet. Key isn't plexing mechanics, it's rewards at higher Tier levels. Farmers/rabbits come out when the rewards are high. Tier rewards also provide incentive for players to push the warzone. Pushing the warzone has proven to be the best conflict driver in the game this summer. So it's a Yin/Yang issue.
X Gallentius Justified Chaos 2455	Posted - 2014.08.21 19:35:00 - [8] - Quote Cearain wrote: But anyway IMO ideally plexing would be a pvp mechanic and fw missions would remain a pve mechanic. Plexing is a PVP mechanic, or haven't you seen the killboards lately? Top corporations on Zkillboard RIGHT NOW. Brave Newbies Inc. 2,210 - Huge corporation Justified Chaos 1,713 FACTION WARFARE C.Q.B 1,630 FACTION WARFARE Red Federation 1,586 - Huge corporation Black Fox Marauders 1,582 FACTION WARFARE Blue Republic 1,462 - Huge corporation GoonWaffe 1,358 - Huge corporation EVE Corporation 987654321-POP 1,189 - High Sec Gankers The Great Harmon Institute ... 1,062 FACTION WARFARE Love Squad 1,017 - Reasonably sized corporation Most of the kills in FW are due to Gallente attacking home systems and Caldari defending. Is it a 100% of the time pvp Mechanic? No it is not. The nature of this game is that both sides need to decide to fight and if one backs out then it's PvE. This "PvE plexing mechanic" is generating more pvp than any other mechanic in this game right now.
X Gallentius Justified Chaos 2455	Posted - 2014.08.21 20:13:00 - [9] - Quote Cearain wrote: How many plexes did your alt capture in the last 2 weeks? 1 million LP worth, so probably about 100. 8ish per day. Do you concede that the plexing has provided more pvp than any other mechanic in the game this summer?
X Gallentius Justified Chaos 2456	Posted - 2014.08.22 21:25:00 - [10] - Quote Cearain wrote: I have always been a huge fan of plex pvp. A simple "yes" would have done. CCP must have done something terribly wrong when they created a PvE mechanic that got this much PvP.
X Gallentius Justified Chaos 2484	Posted - 2014.08.27 20:44:00 - [11] - Quote TrouserDeagle wrote: there's also no consequence to running away. you have what, a day to do the mission? 12 hours. Regularly have to bail on certain missions because of pirates - at a cost of 80k VP!
X Gallentius Justified Chaos 2489	Posted - 2014.08.28 15:18:00 - [12] - Quote Back on topic: Militia level contracts will solve every problem with FW! (ok, not every problem, but most of them for me personally :) )
X Gallentius Justified Chaos 2493	Posted - 2014.08.29 17:17:00 - [13] - Quote chatgris wrote: X Gallentius wrote: Back on topic: Militia level contracts will solve every problem with FW! (ok, not every problem, but most of them for me personally :) ) good stuff Agreed, there should be a "Contracts available to List" feature like they do with comms channels and mailing lists.

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